Posted by: Lizzie | July 14, 2008

Seventeen Magazine

(Just like to mention that I do have internet access, so I figured I would post this- I wrote it last week not sure whether or not I would be able to access the internet on vacation.)

Okay, so, I hate to admit this, but I am subscribed to Seventeen magazine. Don’t get me wrong, I used to love the magazine, but after reading BUST for half a year now, Seventeen just pales in comparison. The few times they have articles about college I read them over and over again, but for the most part it’s about choosing a college or getting into college- which, doesn’t really help me anymore. And I am realizing that I am really getting sick of all the boy centered articles- it’s everywhere! Sure, they have some articles not about boys, but they are the minority.

I will give Seventeen props for their clothing section. They usually (if not always) have clothing advice for all different bodies types, atleast recognizing that we are not all the same. And that is usually the only section I see any, even slightly, fat girls… I mean “curvy all over” girls. In the most recent issue the main feature was on jeans. They have this fold out thing were you find your size under a certain style and it tells you where to find the jeans. The sizes went up to 15/16, and even then half of the jeans were “Sorry! They don’t come in this size!”. Two of them were “It comes in size 17/18 too!”, since they didn’t have a row for 17/18 (probably since only two of the styles were even available). Which pretty much just sucks.

For the fun of it (well, not really fun, but curiosity), I went through the magazine and counted how many times I saw any girls who might even count as “chubby”. There were 6. Yes, 6. And that’s considering I counted one model twice (she was in two different pictures on the same page). And three of them were in a Torrid ad. The last one was featured as one out of the 17 in their “Best Dressed Girls Across America”, which they do maybe once a year. I’m guessing 6 is actually rather high for any magazine.

This year, Seventeen also started their “Body Peace Project”, which, I can’t remember, might have been mentioned in other blogs back when it started. Each month (except last month, for some reason) has an article by Jess Weiner, a “why we need peace”, a goal for each month, and a body peace prize winner. I always enjoy this page, because I think what is being said is important for girls to hear. This month’s was about how girls can take out their feelings on their body.

Again, I think this Body Peace Project is great, but it frustrates me to no end how hypocritical the magazine is. The page before the BPP page is titled “How to Get Your Best Butt by Back-to-School” and the other is “eat all day long!”. I guess it wouldn’t be catchy enough to just have “August’s fun workout!” or something. They are saying to love your body as it is, yet you must work out to get your best butt? Because your butt is not okay the way it is?

The magazine also has a problem with calorie counting, as evidenced by the second title “eat all day long!”, which is all about how you can eat lots of certain low calorie foods instead of a few high calorie foods which can use up a lot of your “daily allowance”. They also have a little star 17 FYI, which mentions to go to the mypyramid website to find out what your daily caloic intake should be, based on your height, weight, and activiy. That is definitely NOT the website you want to send people to. Seriously, I went there because in my nutrition class in school last year we were forced too, and it recommended about 1200 or less for me. And not to mention their “step to a healtheir weight“- it’s all “calories in, calories out” bull, or their “If you are significantly overweight, you have a greater risk of developing many diseases including high blood pressure, Type 2 diabetes, stroke, and some forms of cancer. For obese adults, even losing a few pounds or preventing further weight gain has health benefits.” same old crap. Look, I can see the benefits of eating food for it’s nutritional value and all, but is that what food has become to us? Just fuel for our tanks? That seems like a crappy relationship to have with food.

I remember reading in their letters section someone had complained about the hypocritical nature of this, and they said they were changing. Well, that change lasted about an issue, because every month it’s the same old “best abs/ best butt/ best arms/ best bikini bod/ best whatever” and “good food/bad food” trash. I won’t lie and say they’ve gotten worse, they are much better about this than when I first started reading the magazine two years ago- they had weight loss stories galore. I remember one that I photochopied and would re-read over and over again because the girl looked like me in the before picture, and if she could do it, I could to! Atleast now the magazine stresses healful eating for the sake that it is good for your body, not that it will help you shed pounds.

This month’s magazine also has an article about Eating Disorders (which, again, ironic considering the magazine’s continuous usage of calories and all the advertisment’s airbrushed models). The one section of the magazine featured “Secret Triggers”, and one of them was food labels.

With so many foods marked “diet” or “low-cal”, you may think it’s wrong not to eat them. But they can make you feel obsessive about counting fat and calories.

Which, again, is ironic considering how the magazine stresses low calorie, low fat type food options.

I’m not an expert on eating disorders (and I won’t pretend to be) so I can’t say wether they handled the subject correctly or not. To me atleast, it seemed like a good and informational article, and they had a “Getting Help” section. While I was looking through the comments on Seventeen’s Myspace page I saw this comment:

I like your magazine. I do have a suggestion. They always have models as, like, really skinny. And very rarely do I see average looking people in your magazine. I mean, I will never be able to look like those girls because I’m not built like that. And I don’t want to. But I used to stress out alwys wanting to. Putting egular people in there and not just professional models may add readers to your magazine but also, help girls. It really just puts pressure on them because they think the “right way” to look is like what everyone is in Hollywood.

Also, I’d like to suggest something about your eating disorders articles. When you put articles in there saying “This is how you know if you have an eating disorder…”, it really just gives girls and guys step-by-step directions on how to be anorexic or bulimic. I know people who used teen magazines to have an eating disorder to get skinnier. And I thought that your magazine was trying to help. And it was really disappointing.

I think Seventeen has improved greatly in the two years since I have had the magazine (though has also taken some steps back with all their mixed messages), and their Body Peace Project is a great start, but it seems like they still have a long way to go. I’ll continue to read the magazine until my subscription is up in December, but once that ends I’m making the switch to BUST and giving them my subscription money.

*Edit* I just saw this post whilst catching up on my fatosphere reading, which lead me to this post as well. I am SO done with Seventeen.


Responses

  1. Oh Liz. I demand you throw all those nasty teen mags away. Go Bitch. Go Bust. I had so much anxiety from those stupid magazines. I was TERRIFIED to get my first kiss because there was a section with “real live boys!!1!” talking about how awful kissing some girls can be because they’re so bad at kissing and they got saliva in their mouth/clicked teeth/bumped noses/bit their lip/etc. It seems so silly to me now that one article in one magazine stopped me from kissing boys for YEARS. I was offered my first kiss at 13, but avoided it like the plague for almost 5 years on purpose because all I could imagine was that in 10 years, the recipient of my first kiss would still be telling people, “I kissed this girl when I was 13, and it was super nasty and she had bad breath” (or whatever morbid fantasy I created in my brain.) Of course, it went fine, and the boy I kissed was just so excited to be kissing a girl that I probably could have gnawed half his face off, and it would have been okay. As a matter of fact, I distinctly remember that HE was the one trying to gnaw MY face off.
    Also, I remember that clothing sections for “all sizes” consisted of: Look at all the cute clothes for skinny girls! Colors! Patterns! Textures!
    Fat girls: here’s a black tent. Cover up with it. No flowers. No stripes. Black. Navy blue, but only if you’re a size 8-14.
    Also, I’m on vacation too, but I’m in Winnipeg, MB, which is probably slightly less fun than the Carolinas. :) Enjoy yourself.

  2. What’s BUST? You’ve made me curious.

  3. I’ve been reading Seventeen off and on for the past couple of years, but since my mom is pretty “anti-magazine”, I haven’t been able to subscribe. Now I’m happy I never did.
    It’s funny how you don’t realize these things at first, but then slowly they all slap you in the face.

  4. @ Ryan –

    Bust is an awesome feminist magazine. It’s pretty much the fun, brightly colored magazine that I’ve always wanted! I would definitely recommend it. It’s like seventeen, only a trillion times better. http://www.bust.com/index.php

    @ Carleigh -

    I hope your vacation goes well! :3 I told my mom to see if she could find somewhere to recycle all my old seveteens (I feel bad about just throwing them all away- but we don’t recycle at my house). I so happy to be rid of them.. Now, if only my subscription would magically disappear….

  5. I think the worst part about it too is that they don’t say anything about the HUGE differentials between stores’ ideas of the sizes are. Aeropostale defines a size 5/6 as 31.5 inches with a hip measurement of 38 inches, whereas Hollister defines the same size as a 26/27 inch waist with 36/37 inch hips! That’s utterly ridiculous, and more proof that numbers should not (and do not) matter. It’s taken me a long time, but now when I go into a store I can try on clothes without freaking out about what size they are. It still gets the best of me sometimes (thanks to magazines like these, nobody is immune), but I try my best. Good call on subscribing to Bust instead (I’m asking for a subscription to Bitch for my birthday)!

  6. Think Seventeen is bad? Just wait until you “graduate” to Cosmo. Cosmo doesn’t even attempt to be diverse or welcoming. Its all the crap without even trying. That magazine has made me hate myself more than any man or media outlet ever could.

  7. My HS years were plagued with the shadow of a 13 year old Milla Jovovich (the resident evil chick) on the cover of Seventeen which seemed like every issue.
    I guess somethings haven’t changed…

  8. I used to like Seventeen until a couple of issues ago. In one of the clothes for every body section, they had a pic of an actress/celebrity for each body type and then clothes suggestions. For Plus size, they had America Ferrara, who, while I love her, is not remotely plus size at an 8. So I wrote them and they wrote me back a complete brush off letter. That was the last issue I bought.

  9. Yeah, when you said 6 “chubby” girls per magazine sounds like a high number, you were probably right. You should look at Teen Vogue if you never have, the girls in there make some of Seventeen’s thinner models look fat.

    The one problem I had with your post was this quote:
    “Look, I can see the benefits of eating food for it’s nutritional value and all, but is that what food has become to us? Just fuel for our tanks? That seems like a crappy relationship to have with food.”
    Because the thing is, in reality, that’s what food is. Fuel for our tanks, as you put it. It’s not what it’s become, it’s what it originated as. Primitive human beings didn’t try to cook up mouthwatering gourmet meals, they ate to survive. That point just bugged me a bit.

    Anyways, other than that, I really enjoy reading your blog, I’m glad I stumbled upon it.

  10. I actually like 17, I mean, I definatley see your point, but they do try, more then other teen magazines that is, If you want to enjoy reading on of those, you can’t take anything too seriously, just read it for entertainment.

  11. Oh My God, I have to write a research on why Seventeen and magazines like it are hypocritical!!

    This is great stuff, I hope I find more!


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